Curse

Moa Bird Cultist · Dec 02, 2006, 11:47 AM // 11:47

The title says it all. Bonus items like the Spiritbinder et al are refusing to take upgrades. Anyone else noticed this?

Here's a list of the items I'm aware of that aren't accepting upgrades but should:

- Insightful Spiritbinder *
- Poisonous Dragon Fangs of Dagger Mastery
- Fiery Sunspear of Shelter - (Fiery is an inherent mod and therefore could never be changed.)
- Icy Soulbreaker of Enchanting - (Icy functions the same way as above.)
- Poisonous Nevermore Flatbow *
- Sundering Rhino's Charge *
- Insightful Soul Shrieker *

Thats seven of the bonus weapons that should take upgrades. Of these seven, the four marked with an asterisk are not pre-equipped with a suffix of any kind, making the weilder at a disadvantage. Which is a shame, because apart from anything else, a good few of these are some of the best looking items in the game, (The Nevermore Flatbow, Soul Shrieker and Soulbreaker are all awesome looking items in my view.)

MegaMouse · Dec 02, 2006, 12:15 PM // 12:15

Bonus items that you get from the CE editions or even the GOTY editions cannot be upgraded. These weapons were never meant to be upgraded. You will find other weapons that cannot be upgraded within the game also (Greens cannot be upgraded and certian collector weapons also). This is how it is supposed to be.

Mega Mouse

SaucE · Dec 02, 2006, 12:20 PM // 12:20

My GotY edition weapons could have mods added to them if there wasn't one there.

Example: The Rhino Hammer. (http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Rhino%27s_Charge)

Cowboy Nastyman · Dec 02, 2006, 12:29 PM // 12:29

sorry mega but that is not true ive been using my dragon fangs for quite awhile now with a shocking upgrade instead of the normal poison one

Savio · Dec 02, 2006, 12:53 PM // 12:53

Preorder weapons were previously upgradable until the release of Nightfall.

Burton2000 · Dec 02, 2006, 01:48 PM // 13:48

You cant be serious... I was just about to use my preorder sunspear as I bought a +30 mod to replace the crappy armour one and now you say you can't change its mods!! Grrr

Moa Bird Cultist · Dec 02, 2006, 05:40 PM // 17:40

@ Megamouse: Bonus weapons always used to be upgradeable

@ Savio: I didnt know that - one of their undocumented nerfs?

@ ArenaNet: Now that you've done this, when are you going to balance the Spiritbinder so that it isnt inferior to every other bonus weapon out there?

By that, I mean add a profession specific staff wrapping of mastery - it's only fair now.

Sarevok Thordin · Dec 02, 2006, 06:32 PM // 18:32

It might have something to do with making the weapons compatible with the new inscriptions.

But yeah, I'm pretty peeved at this for now -_-

Uzul · Dec 02, 2006, 06:47 PM // 18:47

before the release of NF I was able to upgrade my preorder bonus items at will. I still have an Ithas Bow with +5 armor and poisonous string on my ranger, however it's impossible to recreate said item now. Same applies for the Spiritbinder my rit has... 20% longer enchantments were added before NF, nowadays it's impossible to put anything on it. Said staff still does the dime for caster heros thou'........

weaver keras · Dec 03, 2006, 12:10 AM // 00:10

I actually modded my Rit. Pre-order staff with a +5 ene. & +29 health, I guess i got lucky.

Contempt · Dec 03, 2006, 04:07 AM // 04:07

Thats a pretty lame nerf... I was planning on adding +30 to my Nevermore Flatbow, guess not now.

Sidra · Dec 03, 2006, 04:12 AM // 04:12

Well... at least I retained my modded dragon fangs from before this seemingly pointless and anoying update. My soulbreaker is crying out for a removal of it's icy prison

Gaile Gray · Dec 03, 2006, 09:18 AM // 09:18

I have never been told that we intended to make Bonus Items non-upgradeable. It may be something that we did mean to do, or it could be a glitch. I will be happy to ask about this and I'm sure if this was intended I can learn why, and if it was not intended, we will fix it.

Thanks for pointing out the question.

Sable Phoenix · Dec 03, 2006, 09:36 AM // 09:36

I really hope it was not intended; I'd love to switch out the Inscription on my Soulbreaker one that gives +5 energy instead.

Drop of Fear · Dec 03, 2006, 09:40 AM // 09:40

both nevermore bow and rhino hammer lose all their reason to exist if u cant add a +5 armor or 30hp upgrade

Savio · Dec 03, 2006, 09:46 AM // 09:46

I presume the inability to upgrade bonus weapons is a side effect from when they were made unsalvagable - the update before Nightfall's release had accidentally made bonus weapons salvagable. The fix probably prevented all modification of bonus items, including the ability to upgrade them.

lyra_song · Dec 03, 2006, 09:48 AM // 09:48

T_T

I hope this is only an overlooked glitch/mistake.

The Soul Breaker is easily the best Scythe skin in the game.

Longasc · Dec 03, 2006, 10:38 AM // 10:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savio

I presume the inability to upgrade bonus weapons is a side effect from when they were made unsalvagable - the update before Nightfall's release had accidentally made bonus weapons salvagable. The fix probably prevented all modification of bonus items, including the ability to upgrade them.

I think this is it. Otherwise people would have salvaged the Serrated Shield for its +30 HP handle, Nevermore Bow and Sundering Rhino Hammer for 15^50 and 20/20 Sundering and so on.

Before Nightfall you could add the "missing" upgrade to these items (mostly the +AL/HP grip), but you could not change the already existing ones: E.g. you could not replace the Poisonous string of the Nevermore Flatbow or the Sundering of the Rhino Hammer.

Bonus items are very useful for Heroes: Most of my Kosses use the Serrated Shield.

lamblamlmab · Dec 03, 2006, 03:43 PM // 15:43

If you still got old bonus weapons from before Nightfall came out they still can be modded. So don't get rid of them.

Moa Bird Cultist · Dec 04, 2006, 05:50 PM // 17:50

Thats an interesting fact, but it doesn't help the 99% of people who are using bonus weapons to outfit their heroes - that being probably the biggest issue here, although I do want to put a spear grip of enchanting on my ritualist's sunspear atm

Btw, thanks for picking up on this, Gaile, I'm sure you can understand how annoying this is.